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Janna Windforce
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:35:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
I have also raised the issue of torp launcher fitting costs with CCP Rise and he agreed that they're out of synch with the way that SR/LR turret fittings work. Whether this will translate into a change in the immediate future will be for him to tell us.
One of my pet peeves about missiles is that there are no low-tier options to enable fitting compromises.
Cheers! At least there is hope :)
Could you more elaborate on the second paragraph? Malkuth launchers require less CPU and meta 3 are a lot cheaper than arbalests. |
Janna Windforce
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.16 11:54:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
Those are meta, not tier.
Say you're fitting your Megathron and you discover that you just can't get your fit to work with 7x 450mm II Rails. You have the option to drop to 350mm II Rails, losing some range, and gaining some tracking by fitting lower tier guns with reduced fitting requirements.
If you're fitting Torp launchers to your Raven, and you just can't get 6 to fit with the rest of your mods, then you have to drop one launcher, losing 1/6th of your primary DPS with no gain in any other attribute. There are no "low tier" launcher options that have a penalty to missile velocity but better explosion radius or more damage and less RoF, in return for reduced fitting costs.
I see, those are somewhat valid points, but probably counterbalanced by facts that you don't have to train for T2 stuff in sequence from smaller ones? |
Janna Windforce
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:39:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:Or we accept that "PvE doesnt matter" and let it be - its not possible to fit such ridiculous gank/no tank in a valid, viable PvP fit on it.
Let me entertain you - 0 damage or drone mods, split weapon systems Typhoon Fleet Issue (I think due it's monsteruberpower it's well worth spelling the name!) is able to pull out 200k EHP armor tank (4 plates + 3 trimarks!), over 1000 DPS, supported with dualweb+scram and MWD sporting 1km/s (1,5km/s heated - check how much armor do you carry!) (Obviously you can opt to plug your explosive hole etc., triple trimarks are there just to illustrate how fast that thing is).
[NEW Typhoon Fleet Issue, Trololo]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Scrambler II
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Garde II x5 |
Janna Windforce
EVE University
Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.05.24 10:37:00 -
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Deerin wrote:Janna Windforce wrote:Close Range Phoon Setup. Domi, Mega and Arma can do this too. Better in fact. Does it make them OP?
Umm I think you've missed the quote above my post. The fit was linked as response to it, and I don't claim to have invented it in any way :P |
Janna Windforce
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.24 12:07:00 -
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Deerin wrote:
/me unsubscribes from thread.
That would be a shame, I've read every post in this threadnaught and it's quite amazing watching the arguments etc. :) Obviously we can't hope for more changes, unless the changes are already made, based on community imputs and will be announced via patch notes, who knows? |
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